By Andrew Cohen
The_Liann 0 minutes ago
Black_Knight writes: " I don't believe the Constitution is a suicide pact- the Constitution means whatever the people in power want it to mean."
Basically that is an ANARCHIST political position and anybody holding that position is an anarchist regardless of what other words they use to describe themselves. The "Constitution" is a "suicide pact" for the entity called "the United States of America". When the Constitution is no longer the standard of agreement, then the USA is dead as a political organization. There is no afterlife as a different USA, it is gone, dead, killed, murdered, finished, over, beyond resurrection.
The people originally signed onto a contract. Their descendents inherited the terms of the contract, both benefits and obligations. That contract is binding on each emerging new-born citizen. It has established behaviors defined with recorded precedents. Anyone can educate themselves on what the contract of the Constitution demands on them.
In 1945 the United States at Nuremburg demanded that the entire world accept international law on penalty of death. German criminals were tried in court and over 2,000 of them were executed by hanging for crimes. Records were kept of what behaviors were tolerated and what were cause for execution by hanging. This precedent became binding on all of the peoples of the world, including American citizens. Torture is a hanging offense, even for big shots and big wigs, even for conservatives, even for Republicans. There are no "ticking time bomb" exemptions or excuses. Break the law and you die. The US fought all of it's wars except Vietnam without resorting to torture -- it is unneeded to win wars, and it lost the Vietnam war.
It is clear to libertarians, to conservatives, to liberals, to moderates, even to anarchists, that defending the Constitution requires the trial and execution of all persons working for any state, without exception, whom engage in torture. Even Black_Knight is bound by this inflexible rule of International Law which the United States imposed upon the entire planet at Nuremberg, Germany, in the 1940s.